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Do
you believe in ghosts or God?
Ghosts for sure. I've
seen ghosts. I saw a ghost when I was five years old for the first
time and I felt a ghost when I was in Austin, Texas. I remember I was
having lunch with a friend of mine and I went like this (looks over
his shoulder), and I said, did you see that? And she
went, yes. We both felt and saw this but that one was different from
the one I saw at four. That was - I was a kid, sitting on this bed,
there was a single bed here and a single bed there and my sister was
asleep and our nanny was sitting there and inside the doorway came
this white double-breasted suit. And it went back and forth with no
body and no legs, just a suit and then it
disappeared.
Were you scared?
No, but the
nanny was. Her eyes were... I've known many people who have seen
ghosts and told ghost stories.
Did you ever think
Hollywood would respect you to the degree it
has?
Well, I've had the chance to work in some
really good films, I think. I don't know. I'm just working on
working. Just trying to make good films.
I
believe you've wanted to do Constantine for some time - apparently they
approached you when you were doing The Matrix?
Yeah, it was probably about a year and
a half or a year from reading the script to production. Maybe even a
little longer.
Were
you intrigued because this is about a guy who lives in a dark place
and is therefore an interesting guy for you to
play?
Yeah, I really responded and liked the
character of Constantine. I thought the script was well written and
I thought Constantine would be fun to play and he was. I really
enjoyed playing him.
Even though he smokes so
much?
Yeah, well there were some days that were
tough with the smoking but I liked this hard edged, hard boiled,
fatalistic, cynical, smug but with a heart of gold, trapped, cursed
thing.
How much did you have to smoke per day? More
than one packet?
Well, it would depend on the scene.
One packet? (Exaggerated laugh). No, there were some days that were
a lot. Yeah.
Did you give up?
No. I
should though.
Do you smoke more than
that?
There were times when it got like that. I
would surprise myself. I'd come home from a day where it would be
quite intense and I'd be like, 'Well, what's one
more?'
The director said this character was really
close to you.
Yeah, well, fooled him, huh? Well, I
relate to him to a certain extent. I love Constantine's sense of
humour, the humour that's in the face of extraordinary
circumstances. He's dying and he gives the finger to the devil, the
demon and he's got this deadpan humour. I liked his anger. I liked
that he didn't like what was going on and he was pissed off. I could
relate to that. It reminded me of school. But it was fun to actually
learn about him, taking the shapes from the comic book itself and I
lowered my register and found rhythms. I don't quite have the
Constantinian world view but I would relate so I guess that's what
made it so fun for me.
At the end Constantine says
there is a plan for all of us - do you think there is a plan for you
- and are you on the right plan for you?
I also like
the other part of that line where he says "... some people like it,
some people don't." Sometimes I feel like there is. Sometimes
someone will say ".... you're a Virgo with your moon rising and this
is your chart.' And you read it and say, 'Oh my God. I've got so
much in common with that chart!' And I don't like it. I don't like
it. But it's true - I think, I know I do, we all have repeating
motifs - some are good and some are bad. It's like, why is this
happening?
You don't want to know the
future?
No, I don't. Unless it's good and then it's
cool. 'You're going to end up in a very nice
place.'
You're the only person who can ride your bike
on Mulholland Drive without a helmet?
Well, I only
do that when the police aren't looking. Anyone can drive Mulholland
without a helmet - it's just not getting caught. (laughs). Yeah, I
don't have a special pass. It's not like I show the police 'Hey, I
have a special no helmet pass - because I'm fabulous.' Oh, yeah. I
got it from the council of Hollywood. No, I don't have famous guy
passes.
You don't use that power?
I
don't know if I have that power. I don't know....with the Matrix films
and working with Warner Bros, I think with this project, I just feel
that it was at Warner Bros for many years and I came across it and
they said, 'Okay, we'll do this film with you.' That's one of the
cool benefits of working or having a film that people
like.
Does having starred in the three Matrix films
which had phenomenal success mean you've raised the bar for people's
expectations? Do they expect that every movie you do in that genre
is going to blast them away?
Well, I'm sure the
producers hope so but for me, this film represents the best of
mainstream popular cinema. It transports you to another world, it's
well acted, and it's beautifully aesthetic. It offers what you hope
for in entertainment and the thing that I hope for is that even in
that you get a little something extra. It's not something - like the
Matrix films, wondrously you can talk about them after, you can
relate to them, you can bring them hope and it's not like you're
bringing them home - hopefully - where you need to take a shower,
that they're interesting. So, if that's the bar that I've tried to
reach - or try to participate in films like that if I'm lucky. I try
to. A film like The Watcher, didn't quite make it.
You're working with Sandra Bullock
again?
It's fantastic. I'm looking forward to it -
we're doing a romance which is an adaptation called Il Mare. We're
working with an Argentinean director named Alejandro Agresti and I'm
looking forward to working with Sandra again. We've kept in touch....
and I think we're a cute couple.
You work with the
same actresses all the time. Are you more comfortable that
way?
No, oftentimes it's not up to me. With Sandra,
she was on the project first and I don't know. I would love to act
with her again and I don't think acting with an actress again is....it
doesn't get in the way for me in terms of...when I see actors who work
together before, I don't hold them to past relationships unless it's
Hepburn and Tracey because they had something else going on. But I
think it's been about eight years since Sandra and I worked
together.
You said earlier on that you don't want to
see the future and then mentioned The Watcher - do you look more on
things in the past?
Yes, sure. I do look back. I
still sometimes wake up and go, 'Gosh, I shouldn't have done
that!'
Even after all you've
achieved?
Well, I'd be thinking about a scene
thinking, 'Why didn't I do that in that scene?' I reflect on past
work and through my experiences - I guess it's just trying to see
what I could learn from them.
You've been described
as the biggest film star in the world - yet you clearly don't see it
that way?
No, not at all. I'm not the biggest film
star in the world at all.
The Matrix made quite a bit
of money?
Yeah but that film wasn't on my back. That
was the Wachowski brothers...that's not my film.
But
you did Something's Gotta Give with Jack Nicholson and that was a
hit too.
Well, that was Jack Nicholson and Nancy
Meyers made that film. I mean...This is an issue that to me is not
very interesting in the sense that - it's great if a film works,
like if Constantine works, like I said with The Matrix, it gives me
an opportunity to hopefully do something great and if it does
succeed and people do enjoy it then producers will want to work with
me so that's opportunity for me to make another film. It's what I do
and that's what I love, to act, so for me hopefully it works out
like that. In terms of judging here and there - that's
not...
Did you see the original Il Mare?
I haven't seen the original film yet. I didn't see
it when it was released here so I haven't had a chance to view it.
I'd like to see it because I hear it's a great film but even like
with Constantine, I'll take the project from the script I'm given. I
thought the script was a real romanticist's romance. It's really
romantic love.
What is that?
It's
believing in love, it's believing that there's someone for you. That
there's the ultimate person, the ideal who will be your soul mate
and your perfect match and that all your pain and suffering will go
away and you'll live happily ever after and you'll be together in a
blissful union.
Can you have more than one soul mate?
I'm the wrong guy to ask (laughs)
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